On the "metabolic approach" to cancer (Dr Thomas Seyfried - based on the Warburg Effect) - the protocols currently using generic drugs - standalone or in combination with standard chemotherapy
- and testimonials that have selection bias (ie. fail to mention the failures - or people self-report only the successes - the ones who die don't report they died)
Is that the major thrust in the use of fasting and Fenben/IVM etc - has been the public.
That is, patients have self-medicated and the successful ones have been followed by others
So there are robust communities of people following Joe Tippens protocol (Fenben, CBD oil and curcumin - as anti-inflammatories)
And separately some stage 4 cancer cases - adopted intermittent fasting (and longer water fasts) to reverse tumor sizes - Guy Tenenbaum and Fred Evrard (who have been later interviewed by Dr Berg and Dr John Campbell on YouTube - those videos have been censored by YouTube)
So the people doing the bulk of the work in this direction for cancer - have been the public i.e. it is an open source or grassroots type of effort
What has happened is that early treatment doctors - due to their increasing comfort with IVM safety profile and their deep dive into it - got exposed to IVM for cancer - and then inevitably the other ideas that had been floating (but ignored by mainstream)
- Joe Tippens and groups who were using those protocols
- Dr Thomas Seyfried (who since his 2014 paper has been advocating that genetic component for cancer is not the full story)
After the covid19 pandemic winded down - these early treatment doctors were freer - and the public was sensitized already
So some of the pre-pandemic cancer groups grew in size - and got attention
As a result you see collaboration now between Dr Paul Marik of the FLCCC with Dr Thomas Seyfried and with Dr William Makis (an oncologist) - they have a paper together on this approach - and Dr Paul Marik has a protocol for cancer from FLCCC
And between the FLCCC and Dr Kathleen Ruddy (a cancer surgeon) - in creating clinical trials to get data on effectiveness of these protocols
Adam Gaertner pointed out early in the pandemic the IVM value - and mid-pandemic created the protocol using IVM for cancer
I was not aware of Dr Thomas Seyfried before the pandemic - or of Dr Igor Atabekov
So while you may be correct that under these circumstances opportunists may emerge
But the people I mentioned above have mostly been at the butt end of health authorities oppression
And they would have earned more by complying with established practice (for example Dr Mary Talley Bowden tweeted once that she would have earned $1M more in bonuses/incentives if she had been pushing vaccines)
Similarly we now know that pediatricians earn large bonuses if they recruit more children to the vaccine schedule (this is why if they have a recalcitrant parent who is leery of completing the full schedule the doctor will throw them out as a patient - as this way their stats for bonuses are not affected)
So the incentives for performing a certain way exists all over medicine - not just in these new directions
The pre-pandemic history of such cancer awareness (which increased futher during the pandemic with the interest in IVM etc.) - among the public
- Veterinarians were using Fenbendazole and IVM for cancer in dogs
- Joe Tippens in 2016-2017 was the ONLY survivor out of 1000+ patients in a chemotherapy trial (he was using Fenbendazole on the side without telling his doctors - it had been suggested by a Veterinarian friend to him) - and he has continued to take it with CBD oil, curcumin (anti-inflammatory) i.e. maintenance dose
- Sharkman protocol
I would say the BULK of the awareness in the public is because of these pre-pandemic actors
With the pandemic and increased awareness of those who used IVM
This has increased further
In this substack post I mainly focused on this second wave of interest in these protocols
I may make a post (for completeness on the pre-pandemic actors in this field).
Most of the people trying these protocols are stage 4/terminal cancer patients who have been sent home to die
The reason this is so is that most cancer patients are too scare to go against their cancer doctor - even when doctor is not giving Vitamin D3 supplements i.e. things like that
Most are too scared to piss off their oncologist - and tend to adhere to their advice very closely (which makes sense)
For this reason many under treatment will not even listen to suggestion to keep Vitamin D at reasonably high levels - even though it is known as a risk factor
(the daily recommended allowance of Vitamin D is like 600 IU which is based on the amount required to avoid rickets - however to keep blood levels above 40-50ng/ml generally need Vitamin D3 5000IU or higher)
This may explain why most of the anecdotes are of stage 4/terminal cases reversing
Though you will find some about skin cancer or growths dropping off with just Ivermectin etc.
So it seems currently these protocols are not in the visibility of the mainstream of cancer patients
Hopefully before they start to be aware, by that time more visibility into outcomes will have happened (since many early treatment doctors are using these protocols on stage 4 cancer cases)
There is already a lot of anecdotal evidence built up for these approaches for cancer
Just as for Ivermectin - now any video debunking Ivermectin has many comments from people saying they used it and it helped - so it is hard to censor now
Similarly for cancer - and this is not just from the pandemic - but prior to that thanks to the Joe Tippens groups (using Fenbendazole) - there is a body of user experience out there
Now in any cancer as a metabolic disease video - you can see many comments about stage 4 cancer reversals
I have heard back from one of the early treatment doctors who told me he had a cancer patient who he was going to start on the Fenben/IVM alternating - Vtamin D3 - Vitamin C intravenous - type of protocol
Patient was stage 4 pancreatic cancer with metastasis all over his stomach area
6 weeks later I checked back how it went - blood markers had improved 75% he said - and metastasis had halved
So this was a case without selection bias (where you only hear from successful cases) - though is a single case
But I am finding a whole host of reports from social media about people reversing skin cancer to other cancers
And we have Dr William Makis substack which detailed many such cases - after he started his practice focusing on cancer - he has been reporting these cases
Now it is possible there could be failures we don't hear about - but the number of stage 4 cancers reporting reversal is so many that it is hard to ignore as a possible signal
(Joe Tippens was one of more than 1000+ patients in a trial of a chemotherapy drug who survived - he was the only one who was taking Fenbendazole on the side - suggested by his vet friend)
(by the way I even tried a course on a tumor on a relative's dog's leg - which was not going away for months - and prolonged IVM 6mg per day - seemed to reduce it and then it rapidly reduced - again this is just one case but interesting)
Then from the other end there is a host of info - Dr Berg's interviews of prolonged intermittent fasting cases who just reversed stage 4/terminal cancers with fasting
So one sees that coming at it from different angles one starts to see the problem being bound from various sides
From the academic side - there are papers suggesting IVM maybe prophylactic for tumor formation ie. prevents formation of new tumors
And those who are using these protocols report benefit
I HAVE seen a signal from some of these early treatment doctors who have used these protocols for cancer - that cancer reduces but if slack off it can come back with a vengeance
So it is pretty clear you can reduce the cancer volumes - just by doing fasting (does not mean calorie restriction - but creating windows where ketosis happens)
Some of the Dr Berg inteview subjects who reversed stage 4 with fasting + diet - they report it is a "manageable problem" i.e. when they fast things seems to reduce - when they slack off it starts to come back i.e. volumes increase
This suggests that fasting alone may be sufficient to decrease volumes - which may give an end state patient some time (to add other therapies and avoid continuing declining)
But it may be that it doesn't destroy the seed necessarily - i.e. when they slack off it comes back (and if the "seeds" for lack of a better description have proliferated in their own way as well - it is possible that there may be multiple areas that grow back in parallel - thus overwhelming the patient)
So there needs to be a way to ensure that there is elimination of these "seeds" or cancer stem cells as well
There the press-pulse protocol may be of use (though there may not be as much data for that as there is for Fenben/IVM/Mebendazole)
The odd thing is there are many anecdotes where there was reversal just with Fenbendazole - or just with Ivermectin
So the question remains what happens if you use all these in combination i.e. throw the kitchen sink at it
We may have the answer soon enough - as the early treatment doctors who are now also treating some cancer patients - will in a few months have enough data to have a seat of the pants idea how this is going
What gives me good signal is that basic observation - that fasting seems to have direct impact on volumes of cancerous tissue - this means the time element could be gained - which gives time to try multiple strategies at once
In any case this is a rapidly developing area - and in a few months we should be getting a better feel for things as data from many doctors start coming in.
Ivermectin=Take concoction, add multiple toxins and radiation. Poisonous to 84% of life on earth.
Even the purest ivermectin may cause fertility damage and damage to unborn child. Known reproductive toxicant. Toxic to aquatic life. "Very toxic if swallowed."
"ivermectin treatment was not continued in patients with mutations detected as a result of genetic examination and these patients were excluded from the study."
"However, there are reports of severe adverse events to IVM, in some humans with high Loa loa burdens, and IVM can be neurotoxic in animals with defects in P-glycoproteins (P-gp) in the blood-brain barrier."
"Ivermectin intoxication was suspected, since encephalopathy and coma are well-known side effects of ivermectin treatment in animals and the usual causes of coma had been ruled out. ABCB1 sequencing identified the child as a compound heterozygote for two nonsense mutations: "
In early stages of development, ivermectin at doses of 0.4-0.8 mg/kg in mice, 10 mg/kg in rats, and 3-6 mg/kg in rabbits, increased the incidence of cleft palate, but it was not considered as embryotoxic since the frequency of anomalies was very low
Ivermectin is made by processing the soil bacteria Streptomyces avermitilis. The bacteria is put through a fermentation process, which forms several varieties of avermectins. Then the mixture is hydrogenated to produce Ivermectin.
Count me among the skeptics. All past cancer cures (which never work) followed the same pattern:
- Hopeful lab culture experiments or other claims
- Curated "testimonials"
- Financially involved promoters
Cancer cures change, but the story is always the same, "new revolutionary cancer cure suppressed by the FDA".
And sadly, you cannot starve cancer; the cancer will starve you
One point I failed to address in your comment:
- regarding financially motivated promoters
- and testimonials that have selection bias (ie. fail to mention the failures - or people self-report only the successes - the ones who die don't report they died)
Is that the major thrust in the use of fasting and Fenben/IVM etc - has been the public.
That is, patients have self-medicated and the successful ones have been followed by others
So there are robust communities of people following Joe Tippens protocol (Fenben, CBD oil and curcumin - as anti-inflammatories)
And separately some stage 4 cancer cases - adopted intermittent fasting (and longer water fasts) to reverse tumor sizes - Guy Tenenbaum and Fred Evrard (who have been later interviewed by Dr Berg and Dr John Campbell on YouTube - those videos have been censored by YouTube)
So the people doing the bulk of the work in this direction for cancer - have been the public i.e. it is an open source or grassroots type of effort
What has happened is that early treatment doctors - due to their increasing comfort with IVM safety profile and their deep dive into it - got exposed to IVM for cancer - and then inevitably the other ideas that had been floating (but ignored by mainstream)
- Joe Tippens and groups who were using those protocols
- Dr Thomas Seyfried (who since his 2014 paper has been advocating that genetic component for cancer is not the full story)
After the covid19 pandemic winded down - these early treatment doctors were freer - and the public was sensitized already
So some of the pre-pandemic cancer groups grew in size - and got attention
As a result you see collaboration now between Dr Paul Marik of the FLCCC with Dr Thomas Seyfried and with Dr William Makis (an oncologist) - they have a paper together on this approach - and Dr Paul Marik has a protocol for cancer from FLCCC
And between the FLCCC and Dr Kathleen Ruddy (a cancer surgeon) - in creating clinical trials to get data on effectiveness of these protocols
Adam Gaertner pointed out early in the pandemic the IVM value - and mid-pandemic created the protocol using IVM for cancer
I was not aware of Dr Thomas Seyfried before the pandemic - or of Dr Igor Atabekov
So while you may be correct that under these circumstances opportunists may emerge
But the people I mentioned above have mostly been at the butt end of health authorities oppression
And they would have earned more by complying with established practice (for example Dr Mary Talley Bowden tweeted once that she would have earned $1M more in bonuses/incentives if she had been pushing vaccines)
Similarly we now know that pediatricians earn large bonuses if they recruit more children to the vaccine schedule (this is why if they have a recalcitrant parent who is leery of completing the full schedule the doctor will throw them out as a patient - as this way their stats for bonuses are not affected)
So the incentives for performing a certain way exists all over medicine - not just in these new directions
The pre-pandemic history of such cancer awareness (which increased futher during the pandemic with the interest in IVM etc.) - among the public
- Veterinarians were using Fenbendazole and IVM for cancer in dogs
- Joe Tippens in 2016-2017 was the ONLY survivor out of 1000+ patients in a chemotherapy trial (he was using Fenbendazole on the side without telling his doctors - it had been suggested by a Veterinarian friend to him) - and he has continued to take it with CBD oil, curcumin (anti-inflammatory) i.e. maintenance dose
- Sharkman protocol
I would say the BULK of the awareness in the public is because of these pre-pandemic actors
With the pandemic and increased awareness of those who used IVM
This has increased further
In this substack post I mainly focused on this second wave of interest in these protocols
I may make a post (for completeness on the pre-pandemic actors in this field).
Most of the people trying these protocols are stage 4/terminal cancer patients who have been sent home to die
The reason this is so is that most cancer patients are too scare to go against their cancer doctor - even when doctor is not giving Vitamin D3 supplements i.e. things like that
Most are too scared to piss off their oncologist - and tend to adhere to their advice very closely (which makes sense)
For this reason many under treatment will not even listen to suggestion to keep Vitamin D at reasonably high levels - even though it is known as a risk factor
(the daily recommended allowance of Vitamin D is like 600 IU which is based on the amount required to avoid rickets - however to keep blood levels above 40-50ng/ml generally need Vitamin D3 5000IU or higher)
This may explain why most of the anecdotes are of stage 4/terminal cases reversing
Though you will find some about skin cancer or growths dropping off with just Ivermectin etc.
So it seems currently these protocols are not in the visibility of the mainstream of cancer patients
Hopefully before they start to be aware, by that time more visibility into outcomes will have happened (since many early treatment doctors are using these protocols on stage 4 cancer cases)
There is already a lot of anecdotal evidence built up for these approaches for cancer
Just as for Ivermectin - now any video debunking Ivermectin has many comments from people saying they used it and it helped - so it is hard to censor now
Similarly for cancer - and this is not just from the pandemic - but prior to that thanks to the Joe Tippens groups (using Fenbendazole) - there is a body of user experience out there
Now in any cancer as a metabolic disease video - you can see many comments about stage 4 cancer reversals
I have heard back from one of the early treatment doctors who told me he had a cancer patient who he was going to start on the Fenben/IVM alternating - Vtamin D3 - Vitamin C intravenous - type of protocol
Patient was stage 4 pancreatic cancer with metastasis all over his stomach area
6 weeks later I checked back how it went - blood markers had improved 75% he said - and metastasis had halved
So this was a case without selection bias (where you only hear from successful cases) - though is a single case
But I am finding a whole host of reports from social media about people reversing skin cancer to other cancers
And we have Dr William Makis substack which detailed many such cases - after he started his practice focusing on cancer - he has been reporting these cases
Now it is possible there could be failures we don't hear about - but the number of stage 4 cancers reporting reversal is so many that it is hard to ignore as a possible signal
(Joe Tippens was one of more than 1000+ patients in a trial of a chemotherapy drug who survived - he was the only one who was taking Fenbendazole on the side - suggested by his vet friend)
(by the way I even tried a course on a tumor on a relative's dog's leg - which was not going away for months - and prolonged IVM 6mg per day - seemed to reduce it and then it rapidly reduced - again this is just one case but interesting)
Then from the other end there is a host of info - Dr Berg's interviews of prolonged intermittent fasting cases who just reversed stage 4/terminal cancers with fasting
So one sees that coming at it from different angles one starts to see the problem being bound from various sides
From the academic side - there are papers suggesting IVM maybe prophylactic for tumor formation ie. prevents formation of new tumors
And those who are using these protocols report benefit
I HAVE seen a signal from some of these early treatment doctors who have used these protocols for cancer - that cancer reduces but if slack off it can come back with a vengeance
So it is pretty clear you can reduce the cancer volumes - just by doing fasting (does not mean calorie restriction - but creating windows where ketosis happens)
Some of the Dr Berg inteview subjects who reversed stage 4 with fasting + diet - they report it is a "manageable problem" i.e. when they fast things seems to reduce - when they slack off it starts to come back i.e. volumes increase
This suggests that fasting alone may be sufficient to decrease volumes - which may give an end state patient some time (to add other therapies and avoid continuing declining)
But it may be that it doesn't destroy the seed necessarily - i.e. when they slack off it comes back (and if the "seeds" for lack of a better description have proliferated in their own way as well - it is possible that there may be multiple areas that grow back in parallel - thus overwhelming the patient)
So there needs to be a way to ensure that there is elimination of these "seeds" or cancer stem cells as well
There the press-pulse protocol may be of use (though there may not be as much data for that as there is for Fenben/IVM/Mebendazole)
The odd thing is there are many anecdotes where there was reversal just with Fenbendazole - or just with Ivermectin
So the question remains what happens if you use all these in combination i.e. throw the kitchen sink at it
We may have the answer soon enough - as the early treatment doctors who are now also treating some cancer patients - will in a few months have enough data to have a seat of the pants idea how this is going
What gives me good signal is that basic observation - that fasting seems to have direct impact on volumes of cancerous tissue - this means the time element could be gained - which gives time to try multiple strategies at once
In any case this is a rapidly developing area - and in a few months we should be getting a better feel for things as data from many doctors start coming in.
Thoughts on vitamin D3 being toxic?
https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/vitamin-d-is-rat-poison-the-fraudulent
Ivermectin=Take concoction, add multiple toxins and radiation. Poisonous to 84% of life on earth.
Even the purest ivermectin may cause fertility damage and damage to unborn child. Known reproductive toxicant. Toxic to aquatic life. "Very toxic if swallowed."
https://rumble.com/v60no0h-taking-a-look-at-ivermectin-121824.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Thank you for your time. Further research for ivermectin:
Half of the population have mdr-1 mutation
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17080296
Mdr-1 makes ivermectin neurotoxic
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11692082
mdr-1 people excluded from human trials to hide the fact it is neurotoxic.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04646109
"ivermectin treatment was not continued in patients with mutations detected as a result of genetic examination and these patients were excluded from the study."
https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/article?id=10.1371/journal.pntd.0001883
"However, there are reports of severe adverse events to IVM, in some humans with high Loa loa burdens, and IVM can be neurotoxic in animals with defects in P-glycoproteins (P-gp) in the blood-brain barrier."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0045653520316428
"The accumulation of IVM in animal tissues and the excretion of urine and feces in the environment is the major source of potential toxicity."
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc1917344
"Ivermectin intoxication was suspected, since encephalopathy and coma are well-known side effects of ivermectin treatment in animals and the usual causes of coma had been ruled out. ABCB1 sequencing identified the child as a compound heterozygote for two nonsense mutations: "
Potassium cyanide LD50 = 7.49 mg/kg ( Rat )
https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AC388315000&productDescription=POTASSIUM+CYANIDE%2C+PURE+500GR&vendorId=VN00032119&countryCode=US&language=en
Ivermectin LD50 = 10 mg/kg ( Rat )
https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AAJ6277703&productDescription=IVERMECTIN+1G&vendorId=VN00024248&countryCode=US&language=en
In early stages of development, ivermectin at doses of 0.4-0.8 mg/kg in mice, 10 mg/kg in rats, and 3-6 mg/kg in rabbits, increased the incidence of cleft palate, but it was not considered as embryotoxic since the frequency of anomalies was very low
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5835698/
Ivermectin is made by processing the soil bacteria Streptomyces avermitilis. The bacteria is put through a fermentation process, which forms several varieties of avermectins. Then the mixture is hydrogenated to produce Ivermectin.
https://www.swiftrunnerministries.com/Subtle-Poisons.php
https://yummy.doctor/blog/a-note-about-ivermectin-and-hydroxychloroquine/
https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/videos/ivermectin-the-true-story-by-dr-andrew-kaufman/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3GGjYlLVqP4g/
https://open.substack.com/pub/chemtrails/p/the-players-behind-ivermectin-how